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BFI London Film Fest

“Bad Apples”, Interview with Director Jonathan Exler and Director of photography Neha Asphäll

todayOctober 15, 2025

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Jonathan Exler (Director) and Neha Asphäll (Director of Photography), "Bad Apples": Exploring the dark side of society and the making of a unique cinematic experience.

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    "Bad Apples", Interview with Director Jonathan Exler and Director of photography Neha Asphäll Laura Della Corte

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Crafting Unpredictability: The Genesis of “Bad Apples”

Director Jonathan Etzler shares the inspiration behind “Bad Apples,” at the 69th BFI London Film Festival, revealing that the film is adapted from the Rasmus book, centered on a powerful moral dilemma. With writer Jess O’Crane, Etzler transformed this idea into a surprising dark comedy with thriller elements. He highlights his fascination with outsiders who struggle to fit into society—a recurring theme in his work that deeply resonates with the story’s core.

Building Maria’s World: The Visual Language of Oppression and Warmth

Neha Asphäll discusses her collaboration with Jonathan to create the distinct aesthetic of “Bad Apples,” especially the oppressive yet subtly warm atmosphere of Maria’s basement. She notes that finding a suitable location was challenging, which led to the decision to construct one. This allowed greater control over shots, lighting, and mood. Fahl emphasizes the deliberate evolution of lighting and atmosphere in the basement throughout the film, aided by sound and production design. Jacquelyn Abrams, the production designer who previously worked on “The Lobster“, played an integral role.

Saoirse Ronan as Maria: Embracing the Unsympathetic

Etzler explains why Saoirse Ronan was cast, highlighting her natural likability as key for playing Maria. He believed her ability to evoke sympathy—despite making questionable choices, like locking a boy in a basement—was essential. Ronan was excited to portray a less sympathetic character, and her early commitment was a vital boost for the project.

Societal Complicity: A Critique of the System

Regarding the film’s themes, Etzler discusses exploring societal complicity in others’ suffering. He critiques the school system’s tendency to treat all children equally, and how underfunding impacts those needing special attention. Etzler also addresses distrust towards non-conforming individuals, a sentiment prevalent in both the UK and Sweden. Through “Bad Apples“, he aims to challenge these societal norms.


Plot

Maria, a dedicated primary school teacher, struggles to inspire her class due to one disruptive student. As her career hangs in the balance and the child's behavior escalates, Maria makes a series of desperate missteps, culminating in her accidentally holding the student captive in her home. When the class unexpectedly thrives in the student's absence, and staff and parents celebrate the improvement, Maria finds herself trapped in a complex moral dilemma. Bad Apples inspired by Rasmus Andersson's novel, provocatively challenges audiences to confront the ethical hypocrisies underlying societal systems and the justifications we use to maintain them.

Written by: Laura Della Corte

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